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Mabel
Posted on: 2009/12/18 21:42
Benzo mania
Joined: 2007/8/7
From: Shah Alam, Cyber Jaya, Sunway
Posts: 20052
Benz Model: S320L, E240, C200
Message:
Re: BUDGET: A New Fuel Subsidy Management System In Early 2010
Quote:

tony wrote:
I hope this is not going to be true. Or at least all 5,+++ MyBenz Members is affected. I think the 'G' should consider applying or modifying the format from the Insurance Company, on the implementation of the subsidy for category 2 & 3, like considering the value of the car each year, rather than the CC alone, coz plenty of Big CC cars are below the FILTHY RICH Group's interest. Justifying Singapore's per capita income is much higher than those of in Malaysia too. As much as I'm all in on the 'Non-Subsidy' for foreign cars...

If this really comes, I think I'll consider using my second car to fill up 2 to 3 times each refuel, and then find a way to 'transfer' the fuel to my car.

Just doesn't make sense to implement high Road Tax & High Fuel price based on CC alone. The whole country's living standard just doesn't balance out, to rate and implement it the way the think.

I think the 'Gs' had serious issues with their 'revenue' since the 'loss' of 4 States, so now they're trying to figure out how to compensate these income, or just plain 'tak pakai otak'.

Just hope someone will raise the 'objection' strong enough to the 'G' to 'shelf' it off or come out with a much reasonable option. .


Agreed. Another option is provide each person with a certain amount of liters say 500 liters each preferably per car irrespective of any cc of the car. Remember G has already tax those high earners on income tax and road tax. This minimum liters should be seen as an investment by G for people to carry out their day to day activities to develop the country.

You mentioned on the lack of revenue...that one a given...if we have less revenue stop spending on those non-value added project like participating in F1...that money if saved can makes all Malaysian multi-millionaires or could be used to manage G balance sheets or cash flow..

Hate to say this...touch woods...if they still proceed...I foresee the price of those high cc car will be falling down even further...hence...tactically...it's better to play wait and see how G is proceeding with this new initiatives..


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Cheers/Mabel

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Take time to read. It is the fountain of wisdom
Membership Number: One Nine Seven Seven

tony
Posted on: 2009/12/19 12:31
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Joined: 2006/5/23
From: Johor Bahru, Malaysia
Posts: 992
Benz Model: 97' W140 S320L
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Re: BUDGET: A New Fuel Subsidy Management System In Early 2010
Sounds FAIR on the 500 litres thingy...AGREED! Or at least billion times better than what the 'G' proposed...The 'tak pakai otak' being proven as well!

Keep the fingers crossed for now!


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tony
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libokwai
Posted on: 2009/12/19 17:19
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Joined: 2009/12/2
From: Manjung Perak
Posts: 100
Benz Model: W124 230E
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Re: BUDGET: A New Fuel Subsidy Management System In Early 2010
In my town:
1. Orang kaya (towkey bot nelayan) dapat subsidi petrol
2. Nelayan kecil jual petrol subsidi, tak payah pergi ke laut.
3. Lepas ni saya nak dafter jadi nelayan lah....

If the system implemented: Drive Kancil isi minyak, balik pam masuk merc aku... bole ka...
Mabel
Posted on: 2009/12/19 18:24
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Joined: 2007/8/7
From: Shah Alam, Cyber Jaya, Sunway
Posts: 20052
Benz Model: S320L, E240, C200
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Re: BUDGET: A New Fuel Subsidy Management System In Early 2010
I really wonder how these whole things would work. If MyKad is used, here are some questions.
1. what's to stop someone from lending his MyKad to a foreigner?
2. If the subsidy is supposed to benefit the poor more than the rich, how will a person's 'richness' or 'poorness' be assessed?
3. If a card system is used, what happens if the electronic reader fails? Then will people have to pay the full price and get a rebate later? That creates additional work which can eventually be abused too.

I can see the above provides excellent opportunities for Malaysian to be very creative...abuse...


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Take time to read. It is the fountain of wisdom
Membership Number: One Nine Seven Seven

duboisi
Posted on: 2009/12/21 17:39
Quite a regular
Joined: 2009/4/19
From: PJ
Posts: 43
Benz Model: W204 C230
Message:
Re: BUDGET: A New Fuel Subsidy Management System In Early 2010
A consortium of MBB and IRIS has secured the Fuel Subsidy project.
Mabel
Posted on: 2009/12/21 19:25
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From: Shah Alam, Cyber Jaya, Sunway
Posts: 20052
Benz Model: S320L, E240, C200
Message:
Re: BUDGET: A New Fuel Subsidy Management System In Early 2010
Quote:

duboisi wrote:
A consortium of MBB and IRIS has secured the Fuel Subsidy project.


What is IRIS?


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Cheers/Mabel

Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm
Take time to read. It is the fountain of wisdom
Membership Number: One Nine Seven Seven

duboisi
Posted on: 2009/12/21 20:30
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Joined: 2009/4/19
From: PJ
Posts: 43
Benz Model: W204 C230
Message:
Re: BUDGET: A New Fuel Subsidy Management System In Early 2010
IRIS - the company that supply the chip for Mycard.
Cougar9
Posted on: 2009/12/22 0:27
Wise Benzitos
Joined: 2005/3/26
From: Petaling Jaya
Posts: 4609
Benz Model: W201 ke?
Message:
Re: BUDGET: A New Fuel Subsidy Management System In Early 2010
Ironically, some of our local bottled drinking water (not even certified mineral water) cost more than RM1.80/liter. And it's purifying process is much less complicated.


C9


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Mabel
Posted on: 2009/12/22 23:50
Benzo mania
Joined: 2007/8/7
From: Shah Alam, Cyber Jaya, Sunway
Posts: 20052
Benz Model: S320L, E240, C200
Message:
Re: BUDGET: A New Fuel Subsidy Management System In Early 2010
Quote:

Cougar9 wrote:
Ironically, some of our local bottled drinking water (not even certified mineral water) cost more than RM1.80/liter. And it's purifying process is much less complicated.


C9


Sound like Saudi Arabia...

The problem here is that Saudi has an issue with water...Malaysia... we have abundance...

IMHO, one of the biggest blunder that was made by previous administration is to increase the fuel price unlike during Dr. M's time. What they failed to realize is that any increased in fuel will have an adverse effect on all prices of good and services...as you pointed out, until today it is not so easy to contain..


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Cheers/Mabel

Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm
Take time to read. It is the fountain of wisdom
Membership Number: One Nine Seven Seven

19owner
Posted on: 2009/12/23 0:27
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Joined: 2008/5/16
From: Kuala Lumpur
Posts: 4847
Benz Model: W201 and Others
Message:
Re: BUDGET: A New Fuel Subsidy Management System In Early 2010
Quote:

Cougar9 wrote:
Ironically, some of our local bottled drinking water (not even certified mineral water) cost more than RM1.80/liter. And it's purifying process is much less complicated.


C9


then, the makers of bottled water can sell them at even higher prices...that'll be great



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