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YUS
Posted on: 2009/10/17 14:12
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Joined: 2009/2/9
From: SETAPAK, KUALA LUMPUR
Posts: 356
Benz Model: C220(202),190E(201
Message:
HARGA AIRCON COMPRESSOR
My aircon (c220)banyak kurang sejuk espclly bila the car is not moving. Dah jumpa mechanic2, all gave opinion my aircon compressor (need 4 kaki!!) not up to mark. So...kena tukar le....

Browse dlm mudah.com.my jumpa this shop 'Entennol aircon enterprise' d Kepong yg jual aircon compressor. He quoted
the AIR CON compressor ONLY :

DENSO NEW-RM1,280 OK KE......?

Kalau tukar he recomended to do
-Air Con Expension Valve
-Air Con Riever Dryer
Tapi pasang kedai lain...PRICE belum quoted lagi..

Kalau refer to thread lain harga shud be(ADV BY DR GAN)

W124 ...
Air Con Expension Valve ... RM 1xx/=
Air Con Riever Dryer ........... RM 9x/=
Gas and Upah ....... RM 1xx/=

All In Should Around RM 300/=
not including the Pipe ....

Question:
i. Harga Denso RM1,280 tu ok ke? and
2.Shud i do the valve and Dryer?
3.Is there any other members2 yg pernah pi kedai ni..

Tapi whatever he likes to check my existing compressor dulu..


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Life is simple, if I ..........

Mabel
Posted on: 2009/10/17 18:14
Benzo mania
Joined: 2007/8/7
From: Shah Alam, Cyber Jaya, Sunway
Posts: 20053
Benz Model: S320L, E240, C200
Message:
Re: HARGA AIRCON COMPRESSOR
Yus,

Why don't you have a look at hoggies's thread "Mercedes Mechanics, AC Man, Wireman, Tireshop" dalam carta Forum.
In that thread, I have shared my experience for my W124 and W201 so does hoggies and hans..

Give any of these air cond shop a call and compare prices.

or you can call Ah Kok ask his opinion and compare price.

On the Denso, just be careful...sometimes if you are unlucky you may get a fake Denso..

Also check the price with Proauto.


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Cheers/Mabel

Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm
Take time to read. It is the fountain of wisdom
Membership Number: One Nine Seven Seven

Gan
Posted on: 2009/10/17 19:10
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Joined: 2008/12/5
From: Johor Bahru, Johor, Malaysia.
Posts: 1772
Benz Model: W202 , W204 . E90
Message:
Re: HARGA AIRCON COMPRESSOR
Quote:

YUS wrote:
My aircon (c220)banyak kurang sejuk espclly bila the car is not moving. Dah jumpa mechanic2, all gave opinion my aircon compressor (need 4 kaki!!) not up to mark. So...kena tukar le....

Browse dlm mudah.com.my jumpa this shop 'Entennol aircon enterprise' d Kepong yg jual aircon compressor. He quoted
the AIR CON compressor ONLY :

DENSO NEW-RM1,280 OK KE......?

Kalau tukar he recomended to do
-Air Con Expension Valve
-Air Con Reciever Dryer
Tapi pasang kedai lain...PRICE belum quoted lagi..

Kalau refer to thread lain harga shud be(ADV BY DR GAN)

W124 ...
Air Con Expension Valve ... RM 1xx/=
Air Con Riever Dryer ........... RM 9x/=
Gas and Upah ....... RM 1xx/=

All In Should Around RM 300/=
not including the Pipe ....

Question:
i. Harga Denso RM1,280 tu ok ke? and
2.Shud i do the valve and Dryer?
3.Is there any other members2 yg pernah pi kedai ni..

Tapi whatever he likes to check my existing compressor dulu..



W202 ...
Air Con Compressor DENSO RM 14xx/= (4 kaki)
Air Con Expension Valve ... RM 1xx/=
Air Con Reciever Dryer ........... RM 8x/=

Kalau YUS Boleh Dapat RM 1280/= (memang murah BETUL)

Your A/Con Compressor ... Memang dah 'ROSAK'
NO Suction

Lepas Tukar ... Mesti Nak Check For The Cut-off point
Kalau Tak Boleh Cut-Off ...
Compressor tak tahan lama
kejap lagi boleh ROSAK lagi


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MB Auto Garage
No 8 , Jalan Permas 9/2 ,
Bandar Baru Permas Jaya ,
81750 Masai , JOHOR .
(T) 07-3822 322 (F) 07-3866 502
(E) ganchinleong@yahoo.com
GAN CHIN LEONG
H/p : (012) 708 2660

YUS
Posted on: 2009/10/18 13:01
Home away from home
Joined: 2009/2/9
From: SETAPAK, KUALA LUMPUR
Posts: 356
Benz Model: C220(202),190E(201
Message:
Re: HARGA AIRCON COMPRESSOR
Quote:

Mabel wrote:
Yus,

Why don't you have a look at hoggies's thread "Mercedes Mechanics, AC Man, Wireman, Tireshop" dalam carta Forum.
In that thread, I have shared my experience for my W124 and W201 so does hoggies and hans..

Give any of these air cond shop a call and compare prices.

or you can call Ah Kok ask his opinion and compare price.

On the Denso, just be careful...sometimes if you are unlucky you may get a fake Denso..

Also check the price with Proauto.



Bro Mabel.

Tks for ur adv and I do take heed on the thread.After seeing Dr. Gan, I went to see other workshops n they cfmd my aircon compressor problem. Most of the workshops quoted between RM1,600 and RM1,800 for the new compressor. So Dr. Gan price is very resonable. Well....workshops pun mau ada untung!

I leave in Ulu Klang area n do u realise that most workshops recommended are on the other side of the town!. It seem there are NO good workshops ard this area!--quite impossible kan?

Met a friend yg friend nya working in the company yg import aircon products. He said The price quoted to me is possible cos like other products it depend on the nature of the shop ie if the shops just specialise in selling aircon then their price are different from 'repairs workshops'.

Now come to a BIG QUESTION:-HOW AM I TO KNOW THE THE AIRCON COMPRESSORS ARE NOT FAKE ??? ....ANY IDEA?


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Life is simple, if I ..........

YUS
Posted on: 2009/10/18 13:20
Home away from home
Joined: 2009/2/9
From: SETAPAK, KUALA LUMPUR
Posts: 356
Benz Model: C220(202),190E(201
Message:
Re: HARGA AIRCON COMPRESSOR
Quote:

Gan wrote:

W202 ...
Air Con Compressor DENSO RM 14xx/= (4 kaki)
Air Con Expension Valve ... RM 1xx/=
Air Con Reciever Dryer ........... RM 8x/=

Kalau YUS Boleh Dapat RM 1280/= (memang murah BETUL)

Your A/Con Compressor ... Memang dah 'ROSAK'
NO Suction

Lepas Tukar ... Mesti Nak Check For The Cut-off point
Kalau Tak Boleh Cut-Off ...
Compressor tak tahan lama
kejap lagi boleh ROSAK lagi


Dr Gan,

Tks for the info.Tapi nak tanya BANYAK sikit

Can elaborate sikit ke, what is n function of;

1.Air Con Expension Valve ...
2.Air Con Reciever Dryer ....

3.Is it a MUST to do (1) and (2) abv if I change the aircon compressor??
4.Can it (3) be done later after changing the compressor?

As for 'cut-off' dah faham cos dah being explaind in the thread...

Beside abv, any other info i shud know...Saya budak (or orang tua) baru (mau) belajar


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Life is simple, if I ..........

Gan
Posted on: 2009/10/18 14:35
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Joined: 2008/12/5
From: Johor Bahru, Johor, Malaysia.
Posts: 1772
Benz Model: W202 , W204 . E90
Message:
Re: HARGA AIRCON COMPRESSOR
Quote:

YUS wrote:

Dr Gan,

Tks for the info.Tapi nak tanya BANYAK sikit

Can elaborate sikit ke, what is n function of;

1.Air Con Expension Valve ...
2.Air Con Reciever Dryer ....

3.Is it a MUST to do (1) and (2) abv if I change the aircon compressor??
4.Can it (3) be done later after changing the compressor?

As for 'cut-off' dah faham cos dah being explaind in the thread...

Beside abv, any other info i shud know...Saya budak (or orang tua) baru (mau) belajar


OK ...

1st ... the Expension Valve ...
.... It Worked Like A 'themostat' For The Air Con System
.... When The System Is Warm ... It OPEN allow the gas flow in (spray-in)
.... When The System Is cold ... It CLOSE to stop the gas flow in (prevent Icing)
........ SOMETHING LIKE THIS .........

2nd ... the Reciever Dryer ...
.... It Worked Like A 'filter' For The Air Con System
.... It Filterring The Air Con Gas Articles ...
.... It Was A Separator The System From The Vapour / Water
........ SOMETHING LIKE THIS .........

IMPORTANT ...

If You Replace The Air Con Compressor or The Expension Valve ....
The A/C Gas Filter (Reciever Dryer) ... MUST Change ..

When You Replace The Reciever Dryer ....
The Expension Valve ... NOT neccessary Need To Be Replaced

Again ... If Your Air Con System If Dirty ...
I Meant The Gas ... is Black In Colour .. Rusted Colour ...
It Meant Your System ... Is DIRTY ...
It Need Flush .... With special Cleaner

The Comp ... Exp Valve ... Rec Dryer ...
MUST Replace with NEW items ....

otherwise ... Your System Won't last You Long ...
and The NEW Compressor ... May KARPUTT again ...

Kalau Tak Silap ... Your A/C Gas Is RUSTED @ Dah Karat

Check The A/C Condensor As Well ...
Tuip Dengan Mulut ... Kalau Kena Tuip Kuat Sangat
That Indicate DAH SUMBAT ...
Kena Tukar Baru ...

The Dryer Also ... Blowed With your mouth ...
You May Compare With NEW Dryer ...
Different a lot ..

Any Problem ... Please Let me know ...


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MB Auto Garage
No 8 , Jalan Permas 9/2 ,
Bandar Baru Permas Jaya ,
81750 Masai , JOHOR .
(T) 07-3822 322 (F) 07-3866 502
(E) ganchinleong@yahoo.com
GAN CHIN LEONG
H/p : (012) 708 2660

Mabel
Posted on: 2009/10/18 21:21
Benzo mania
Joined: 2007/8/7
From: Shah Alam, Cyber Jaya, Sunway
Posts: 20053
Benz Model: S320L, E240, C200
Message:
Re: HARGA AIRCON COMPRESSOR
Quote:

YUS wrote:
Now come to a BIG QUESTION:-HOW AM I TO KNOW THE THE AIRCON COMPRESSORS ARE NOT FAKE ??? ....ANY IDEA?


Noted.

1. If you decide to go for Ori, my suggestion is to buy from Proauto.

2. If you decide to buy Taiwanese, go to any spare part shop.

3. If you decide to go for recond ori, ask your trusted air cond mechanic to source it for you.

For My 124, I went in with Option 2 based on my mechanic suggested option. Cost me about RM 600 all in including pick and send back the car. For my W201, I went for Option 3, complete reburbish and change out the old tropicalised air cond system with recond Japs ori Merc air cond system. Cost me about RM 2000 all in including pick and send the car.


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Cheers/Mabel

Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm
Take time to read. It is the fountain of wisdom
Membership Number: One Nine Seven Seven

hoggies
Posted on: 2009/10/18 22:51
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Joined: 2008/4/6
From: KL
Posts: 1868
Benz Model: W124 230E
Message:
Re: HARGA AIRCON COMPRESSOR
Thanks for outlining the options. Mabel.

How realible is it to get a chopshop/recond unit? Or is it a hit and miss?

How about the taiwanese unit? Any pros and cons?


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Mabel
Posted on: 2009/10/19 0:20
Benzo mania
Joined: 2007/8/7
From: Shah Alam, Cyber Jaya, Sunway
Posts: 20053
Benz Model: S320L, E240, C200
Message:
Re: HARGA AIRCON COMPRESSOR
Quote:

hoggies wrote:
Thanks for outlining the options. Mabel.

How realible is it to get a chopshop/recond unit? Or is it a hit and miss?

How about the taiwanese unit? Any pros and cons?


The chop2/recond options was for my W201. I have this problem of having to refill the gas every 6 months. Did the services with my air cond mechanic, Ah Kok 3 years ago. The problem came back after 1 year and he services the air cond system including those "things" at the dashboard. The problem came back after 6 months. His options were to service the whole tropicalise system or to go for the reconds Japs ori Mercedes air cond system. According to him, it is easy to get this from his contact network. I took his advice to change the whole air cond system with this recond unit. As stated in your thread, this includes dismantling and refitting the “new” Big Auto Fan, Denso compressor, Condenser, Blower Unit, 1 set of Hosts, 1 set of Radiator, Labor charges for 3 days work, Cooling Coil and 1 month warranty for about RM 2K including picking and sending back the car services.

Happy with the results, It's been more than 6 months...air cond is still cold and the car does not feel sluggish with air cond on...just about the same as my PV6. The reason I ask him to source the parts is that he can choose the parts as he should be morec competence than me in this area and can change back the parts with his supplier easily during the warranty period. So far, Alhamdullilah...no problem till today.

For my W124, I have problem with the Aircond Compressor...Kong. The Taiwanese option was one of above three options he laid down to me. The reason is simple...it was due to price and the facts that I got his guaranteed that it will work as he has done it to a numbers Mercs that was send to his shop. It's not uncommon to see exotic CEs, SL, W140, W124, W201 at his shop. And of course, most importantly, it came with warranty. It's been about a year and the air cond is working fine. Since you asked me this question, I took a look at my W124 Repair spreadsheet as I have this in my notebook. The actual price for this Taiwanese brand is RM 400 and RM 120 to change valve, gas, compressor oi and services. The remaining RM 30 is my additional tips for his pick up and send services (he did not ask for it).....so actually the cost is RM 550.

Compare that with Yus's price for a band new compressor...I assume the price should be around that circa..for W124..

I wouldn't take that Taiwanese brand if I don't trust him....and so far I'm glad that I took his advice...


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Cheers/Mabel

Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm
Take time to read. It is the fountain of wisdom
Membership Number: One Nine Seven Seven

hoggies
Posted on: 2009/10/19 0:34
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Joined: 2008/4/6
From: KL
Posts: 1868
Benz Model: W124 230E
Message:
Re: HARGA AIRCON COMPRESSOR
Mabel, Thanks for sharing, I'm impressed that you keep such good notes on your service history! I would not have considered opting for Taiwanese compressor till I read your thread. Will keep that in mind if the need (touch wood!) arises.


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