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hotflyer71
Posted on: 2009/10/11 22:23
Just popping in
Joined: 2009/8/9
From: Sepang, Selangor
Posts: 16
Benz Model: R350 (W251)
Message:
BUYING RECON MERCE? WHAT IS RECON?
Actually NOTHING IS RECONDITIONED.. well hardly...

It is just second hand cars used in the UK or Japan, which has alot of miles on it. THEY WIND DOWN THE ODOMETER TO SHOW LESS MILEAGE.

Plug in ASSYST PLUS computer and it will show the last oil change mileage. They will not allow this if you bring someone from Merce workshop to check the actual mileage.

They will say when buying, 2 months warranty is given, BUT NEVER TELL ONLY THE ENGINE IS WARRANTIED, the rest of the car is not. When something is wrong, noise or whatever, THEY WILL BE RELUCTANT TO CHANGE, only the salesman will deal with you and say boss won't allow.

THEY GOT THESE CAR DIRT CHEAP, SO THEY CAN SELL CHEAP, it is not worth buying these trashes from these people who can evade the law easily.

FOR EXAMPLE THOSE ESTABLISHMENTS IN Jalan Gombak - SENDIKEMAS, MONGHENG, ETC... Watch out for those in Cheras as well.. (Name not actual but you can make out)

SO PROSPECTIVE BUYERS - REMEMBER - RECON IS JUST A WORD THESE RESELLERS COME OUT WITH, NOTHING IS RECONDITIONED...

German Motors PJ, recently checked my car, and the odometer doesnt tally with the actual mileage.

On a different note, German Motors Sdn. Bhd. does a damn good job, have mechanics who are proficient and knowledgeable.







Mabel
Posted on: 2009/10/11 23:29
Benzo mania
Joined: 2007/8/7
From: Shah Alam, Cyber Jaya, Sunway
Posts: 20053
Benz Model: S320L, E240, C200
Message:
Re: BUYING RECON MERCE? WHAT IS RECON?
Pretty good observation hotflyer71!

The best part is "THEY GOT THESE CAR DIRT CHEAP, SO THEY CAN SELL CHEAP" Really wonder how much they are making. A decent mark up is RM 2000. In some cases it can even go up to RM 9000.

I took some learning from your observation. Buy from someone you know or perhaps from Mybenzer.

Thanks for posting this thread..


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bObO
Posted on: 2009/10/12 7:42
Just can't stay away
Joined: 2009/8/26
From: Shah Alam
Posts: 76
Benz Model: W203 C200K sport
Message:
Re: BUYING RECON MERCE? WHAT IS RECON?
It is a known fact that a RECOND car is simply a second hand/used car from UK / Japan.
Any used cars will have their wear and tear problems.

It is also a well known fact that the odometers are being tampered in order to make the cars appear less used.
It is illegal but it is rampant.

The prices of used cars in UK / Japan are dirt cheap compared to what we have to pay here.

A UK spec recond C class cost less than RM 70000 in UK (you can surf UK based websites to check the price) and sold at RM 150 000 in our country.

Despite these known facts, why do Malaysian still buy these car?

Despite the fact that we have our own national cars that cost merely a fraction of recond cars, why do our citizen still willing to part with their hard earned money?

We all have our own answer.

It is sad, but that is the situation currently.


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teranova
Posted on: 2009/10/12 10:08
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Joined: 2009/6/11
From: kL
Posts: 197
Benz Model: c200k AvAntGArdE
Message:
Re: BUYING RECON MERCE? WHAT IS RECON?
well, mybenz shld do sumtin aboujt this. i 4 1, is mor dan happy 2 get my hands dirty in this. callin 4 otais in here, lets us accredit da AP holda in msia, n lets us black list for those shop[s who r sellin reckon car w'out AP...


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cALLin it 'wOrk' dOznt mAkE it ritE!

Gan
Posted on: 2009/10/12 11:20
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Joined: 2008/12/5
From: Johor Bahru, Johor, Malaysia.
Posts: 1772
Benz Model: W202 , W204 . E90
Message:
Re: BUYING RECON MERCE? WHAT IS RECON?
Is a USED
Not RECOND ....

The Used Car Leader ...
bukan
The Recond Car Leader ...


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81750 Masai , JOHOR .
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ConMan
Posted on: 2009/10/12 12:38
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Joined: 2007/10/18
From: Ampang, Kuala Lumpur
Posts: 233
Benz Model: W208, R171 200K
Message:
Re: BUYING RECON MERCE? WHAT IS RECON?
many years ago, I think the cars are true recon cars.. I remember 20++ years ago, my dad bought a recon Mistubishi Galant stationwagon from Rahman Brothers where the cars were reconditioned from Japan.. new paint, refurbished interior..

problem with these recon cars before, susah nak cari spareparts as the japan spec and local spec is totally different and in the old days many shops don't carry japan spec items.. Now it is not that difficultlah..at least that is what I think- based on my current expereince with the CLK (not sure about Japanese car)

I got one question for you Gan, lets say if i'm buying a imported car, if I give you the vin no, can you check the service history and check the actual mileague too??


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Gan
Posted on: 2009/10/12 13:04
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Joined: 2008/12/5
From: Johor Bahru, Johor, Malaysia.
Posts: 1772
Benz Model: W202 , W204 . E90
Message:
Re: BUYING RECON MERCE? WHAT IS RECON?
Quote:

ConMan wrote:

I got one question for you Gan, lets say if i'm buying a imported car, if I give you the vin no, can you check the service history and check the actual mileague too??



From the VIN ...
We Can Check the Vehicle DATA ...
The important information ... is the Manufacturing Date ...
and the engine No... Transmission No...
The Original Factory Spec / System ...
The Country Code ...Either match with the AP or Not ...


the actual mileage used ... have to check with the STAR
if they / someone had rewind the mileage ... Tru EIS
of corse ... we can't trace also ..

Whereby The Service History .... Of Corse ... NOT

That's Why ... I always advice ... You all Look For CKD version ...

A question ....
If You Want To Sell You Car ...
Do You tell the buyer ... The Car History ...
and What Wrong to your car .... etc ???

Samething to the Saleman also ...
Everything Is Good ... All Are OK ...
Promise This ... Promise That .... everything PASS thumb up

After The Payment ... after deal become DEAF
Bye-Bye... lol ...


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MB Auto Garage
No 8 , Jalan Permas 9/2 ,
Bandar Baru Permas Jaya ,
81750 Masai , JOHOR .
(T) 07-3822 322 (F) 07-3866 502
(E) ganchinleong@yahoo.com
GAN CHIN LEONG
H/p : (012) 708 2660

19owner
Posted on: 2009/10/12 13:41
Certified Benzitos
Joined: 2008/5/16
From: Kuala Lumpur
Posts: 4847
Benz Model: W201 and Others
Message:
Re: BUYING RECON MERCE? WHAT IS RECON?
some used car sellers spruced the cars up by adding 'un-registered' units

if one is looking for a cheaper car, a good and safer alternative would be to buy from naza when they have offers and discounts for the older (year manufactured) models...
ConMan
Posted on: 2009/10/12 14:12
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Joined: 2007/10/18
From: Ampang, Kuala Lumpur
Posts: 233
Benz Model: W208, R171 200K
Message:
Re: BUYING RECON MERCE? WHAT IS RECON?
alamak Gan.. mercedes tak bawak CLK or SLK CKD lah.. mcm mana mau beli..


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fardell
Posted on: 2009/10/12 14:26
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Joined: 2005/8/19
From: Shah Alam
Posts: 6450
Benz Model: 260E
Message:
Re: BUYING RECON MERCE? WHAT IS RECON?
I have been observing this thread and somehow it triggers my interest of sharing some information comparing the so-called reconditioned cars and brand new cars. For this case, let me share with you guys the difference between a CLS350 which is fully imported brand new from Germany by Mercedes Benz Malaysia and CLS350 imported used by this so-called gray importer.

A brand new fully imported CLS350 by Mercedes Benz Malaysia comes with keyless-go function, leather interior, airmatic suspension, EASY-PACK boot package, sunroof and memory seats and it cost RM700k. On the other hand, a gray importer can simply sell the same model at half of the brand new price (RM350k) but the car is just a basic model; per se it doesn't come with keyless-go function, EASY-PACK boot package, airmatic suspension and some does not even comes with the leather seats, thermatronic climate control as well as the memory seats.

CLS brought in by Mercedes Benz Malaysia is all brand new units and full spec as opposed to the gray imported units. Most of the gray imported units have been used by other people in the country of origin thus with high mileage ends up with higher wear and tear of the car whereby, brand new units are covered with a 2 years unlimited mileage warranty nationwide; hence wear and tear risks are reduced. Buying from gray importer one will only be assured with a very limited warranty say 6 months or 1 year warranty, and it only covers either the gearbox or the engine except the other parts of the cars.

IMHO, let say the new car is way too much for one to own, therefore, they can opt for the demo units which is cheaper than the new units.

Again, tepuk dada tanya selera.


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