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twting
Posted on: 2012/1/28 15:13
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Joined: 2012/1/17
From: sitiawan
Posts: 7
Benz Model: brabus k4
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brake power reduced,pls visit workshop,sbc pump
hi,
i just bought a used brabus K4,it was same model as E200 Kompressor(w211),from starting, I think the message show brake power reduced just small case, but after do some research,only found that is very big issue, most was saying that the SBC pump is out of order, is this true?where can i to repair it?

i call ipoh motor sdn bhd at ipoh asking the price,it cost Rm9k...why so expensive?any one of w211 fan can give some advise for me...tq
sukereta
Posted on: 2012/1/28 18:25
Benzo mania
Joined: 2005/3/21
From: Petaling Jaya
Posts: 455
Benz Model: Aiming - Cosworth
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Re: brake power reduced,pls visit workshop,sbc pump
Yes, you need to replace the SBC as you cannot repair this part. I think the cost is around 7k. Need to buy new as you cannot used from chop shop as it is already registered.
It is expensive as it is part of the braking system that give the car superb braking. The SBC should last you for another 10 years once replaced.
Sweetner
Posted on: 2012/1/28 19:50
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Joined: 2008/8/13
From: Virginia
Posts: 59
Benz Model: W202, W210, W211
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Re: brake power reduced,pls visit workshop,sbc pump
This is the problem with earlier w211 model as it used SBC braking system. The latest nodel -after 2005- and facelift abondone the SBC and back to normal braking system i.e brake by wire. If the indicator shown SBC need to be replacede, better get it done otherwise you drive w/o braking.
The price is about 7k as suggested by some friends. Anyway send your car to proper MB w/s to diagnos.
Mabel
Posted on: 2012/1/28 21:36
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Joined: 2007/8/7
From: Shah Alam, Cyber Jaya, Sunway
Posts: 20052
Benz Model: S320L, E240, C200
Message:
Re: brake power reduced,pls visit workshop,sbc pump
Quote:

Sweetner wrote:
This is the problem with earlier w211 model as it used SBC braking system. The latest nodel -after 2005- and facelift abondone the SBC and back to normal braking system i.e brake by wire. If the indicator shown SBC need to be replacede, better get it done otherwise you drive w/o braking.
The price is about 7k as suggested by some friends. Anyway send your car to proper MB w/s to diagnos.


+ 1...this is also my understanding...


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MB200E
Posted on: 2012/1/30 8:52
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Joined: 2011/4/3
From: Kiasuland and Bolehland
Posts: 77
Benz Model: 1993 W124 200E 16V
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Re: brake power reduced,pls visit workshop,sbc pump
I read in online forum that in Singapore, the SBC pump for W211 is covered under lifetime warranty. Clearly, it is not the case here.
clarkson
Posted on: 2012/1/30 9:50
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Re: brake power reduced,pls visit workshop,sbc pump
nothing wrong with pump or electronics.....it just means the nos. of brake actuation has been exceeded....haha...two ways to resolve issues :-

i) reset & reprogram,
ii) buy used ( which will eventually failed),
iii) buy new (10 % of the cost of vehicle or roughly one w124 haha)

good luck :D

is5711
Posted on: 2012/1/30 16:21
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Joined: 2008/4/25
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Re: brake power reduced,pls visit workshop,sbc pump
Sbc is under worldwide life time warranty, but u need to have full service record with Mercedes, u can only claim once. If u are not entitle then u got 2 options

1. Change with Mercedes (u get latest Sbc update not previous year ie 2009 model ) but a bit costly
2. Change outside u can get as cheap as rm 6k
U have to choose . So far I never heard anybody can service the item.

I have change mine 2years back but at that time the part is still cheap. At 1st I want to change outside but then when thinking back since I want to use it 4-5years more I decide to change with Mercedes , a bit costly but worth it, I don't want to take risk with braking system.
clarkson
Posted on: 2012/1/30 17:00
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Re: brake power reduced,pls visit workshop,sbc pump
basically nothing is broken with the unit. it's just mercedes's way of making a quick buck out of their customers. sbc basically is brake by wire. there's no mechanical connection between the brake pedal and the pump. the brake pedal acts as a sensor. each time the brake is depressed it sends a signal to the ecu and the ecu calculates the pressure, duration etc. in emergency braking, there's will be no pulsation as with older mercedes. according to sources, mercedes delibrately incorporated the limit on the nos. of brake actuation (the number of times the brake is used).when this number is exceeded (which mercedes define as the limit of tear and wear to the unit), the display flash a service reminder. in order to get around this prob, many refurbished units are reprogram or reset.



twting
Posted on: 2012/2/10 9:28
Just popping in
Joined: 2012/1/17
From: sitiawan
Posts: 7
Benz Model: brabus k4
Message:
Re: brake power reduced,pls visit workshop,sbc pump
hi..
i also do many research...it can be reset...but malaysia got workshop do the reset?
wys
Posted on: 2012/2/27 13:30
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Joined: 2007/4/19
From: Petaling Jaya
Posts: 44
Benz Model: W211 E270cdi
Message:
Re: brake power reduced,pls visit workshop,sbc pump
Do check with Cycle&Carriage whether your unit have been replaced with the improved version under the worldwide recall a few years back. If not, they are still obligated to replace FOC as its paid for by Daimler Benz. You may need to pester them a bit.

If the improved version has already been fitted, you are entitled to a 10 years warranty. From my experience of seeing this message, it turned out to be just replacing the motorcycle battery [cost <200] located behind the windscreen washer tank.

Unlike other manufacturers, Daimler Benz honours their warranty obligations irregardless of wherever the original car was sold. Hope it helps.


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